On-shore manufacturing requires an on-shore workforce. I’m wondering how this will sit with any company that wants to invest in on-shore manufacturing. I mean, what’s the big picture here?
You can also just do it by the book and get proper l1-b visas or have them performing duties not categorized as work such as training, consulting local staff, etc (not a legal advice). Or you can do what they allegedly did and see where that gets you.
Also if they were cutting corners on this what else did they cut corners on?
Factory workers are easy targets compared with actual criminals. So ICE goes after them to meet their quotas. It could also be that the Hyandai executives weren't contributing enough to the right parties so had to be made an example of. Could be both.
Trump did get a metal turtle ship model made by one "Oh Jeong-chul, a master from HD Hyundai", gifted by Korean president Lee Jae-myung. But maybe Trump forgot that. He's getting old after all, and it was more than a week ago how could we expect him to remember.
That's the fun part. They all are violating immigration laws. The country is run on cheap immigrate labor. What we are seeing is selective enforcement.
Doesn't appear to be the case considering all the ICE news lately... On the contrary seems like they're enforcing white-collar immigration laws too now.
Also i'm willing to bet it was a tip off by a pissed off vendor or local union or something.
the picture is that these workers must have been in the US under a completly above board legal framework to build out a battery plant and presumably they are a specialised ,experienced work force, under contract, Korea right, one of the most orderly countrys on the planet, rich too,
tell them to go home, they go home
so this must be a contrived way to eliminate competition, after all of the contracts were signed.
reputational damage to the US is incalculable
and a strategic retreat by all other countrys becomes likely
these people came with there familys, were detained at work, with there kids comming home from school to no parents
full tilt, psycho freak move
If they were all working on b1/b2 visas (like actually setting up lines and doing other work and not just training locals) as this source is claiming[0] it’s a clear violation and slam dunk case. They will be deported and barred entry for like 10 years. Also these laws were on the books since forever just hard to enforce unless someone is being completely obvious which seems to be the case here
Hyundai is investigating 12.6 billion dollars in Georgia, and the response is to raid the facility and arrest ~500 people working there. How does that benefit Americans? Korea is pumping money into our economy, and we throw the people working there in jail. For what? Working?
If Hyundai's operations keep getting disrupted, they can't justify spending billions here. Other international companies also won't waste their time investing and building infrastructure here. They'll spend it somewhere else. What is pro-American about this? Is the Republican party now anti-money? Anti-capitalism? How is this a win for Americans or Republicans or conservatives or anyone?
What is so bad about hiring people who are legally allowed to work in the US? Why requiring this would be so disruptive? What is so bad about following the law?
Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45139954
On-shore manufacturing requires an on-shore workforce. I’m wondering how this will sit with any company that wants to invest in on-shore manufacturing. I mean, what’s the big picture here?
You can also just do it by the book and get proper l1-b visas or have them performing duties not categorized as work such as training, consulting local staff, etc (not a legal advice). Or you can do what they allegedly did and see where that gets you.
Also if they were cutting corners on this what else did they cut corners on?
Factory workers are easy targets compared with actual criminals. So ICE goes after them to meet their quotas. It could also be that the Hyandai executives weren't contributing enough to the right parties so had to be made an example of. Could be both.
Yes the Hyundai president left his gold brick at home
Trump did get a metal turtle ship model made by one "Oh Jeong-chul, a master from HD Hyundai", gifted by Korean president Lee Jae-myung. But maybe Trump forgot that. He's getting old after all, and it was more than a week ago how could we expect him to remember.
Or you know could be that corporate execs blatantly violating immigration laws. They would never, i know
> corporate execs blatantly violating immigration laws
That's the fun part. They all are violating immigration laws. The country is run on cheap immigrate labor. What we are seeing is selective enforcement.
> What we are seeing is selective enforcement.
Doesn't appear to be the case considering all the ICE news lately... On the contrary seems like they're enforcing white-collar immigration laws too now.
Also i'm willing to bet it was a tip off by a pissed off vendor or local union or something.
the picture is that these workers must have been in the US under a completly above board legal framework to build out a battery plant and presumably they are a specialised ,experienced work force, under contract, Korea right, one of the most orderly countrys on the planet, rich too, tell them to go home, they go home
so this must be a contrived way to eliminate competition, after all of the contracts were signed. reputational damage to the US is incalculable and a strategic retreat by all other countrys becomes likely these people came with there familys, were detained at work, with there kids comming home from school to no parents full tilt, psycho freak move
If they were all working on b1/b2 visas (like actually setting up lines and doing other work and not just training locals) as this source is claiming[0] it’s a clear violation and slam dunk case. They will be deported and barred entry for like 10 years. Also these laws were on the books since forever just hard to enforce unless someone is being completely obvious which seems to be the case here
[0] - https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ice-raid-hyundai-plant-georgia-021...
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Hyundai is investigating 12.6 billion dollars in Georgia, and the response is to raid the facility and arrest ~500 people working there. How does that benefit Americans? Korea is pumping money into our economy, and we throw the people working there in jail. For what? Working?
If Hyundai's operations keep getting disrupted, they can't justify spending billions here. Other international companies also won't waste their time investing and building infrastructure here. They'll spend it somewhere else. What is pro-American about this? Is the Republican party now anti-money? Anti-capitalism? How is this a win for Americans or Republicans or conservatives or anyone?
What is so bad about hiring people who are legally allowed to work in the US? Why requiring this would be so disruptive? What is so bad about following the law?
> What is so bad about hiring people who are legally allowed to work in the US?
They command market rate wages.
Maybe they forgot to bribe the right people? Did they offer something of gold to the president?
Hyundai might not even have known this was going on and is grateful it was caught. Illegal workers are often hidden behind layers of subcontractors.
So as long as they invest money, they or their workers can break whatever laws they want? They have immunity?
lol. this is like Taiwan arresting the Dutch going there to install lithography machines for tsmc.
the bribe seeking blacks shirts are hitting themselves now.
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